That article was absolutely fascinating. I knew that leafleting was a common propaganda tactic, never thought about it using nudity and sex. Had heard of Tokyo Rose and Jane Fonda.

Aww, man. I only had two of my comments removed for my lack of civility.

Personally, I was having a lot of fun fighting with the vegans.

Can somebody get me a sad trombone?

You have your religion. Your religion says it’s not ethical to kill animals. I don’t believe in your religion.

Yup, omnivore. I’ve got the canines and binocular vision as well as the molars and gut to prove it. I like meat and vegetables. Your religion says it’s bad to eat meat. I don’t care about your strongly held beliefs: I think they’re a bunch of hooey.

I have no ethical or moral problem with killing as I do it. It’s not wrong to kill animals and eat them.

Hunting is pretty much built in to being human. It’s about the closest thing to religion I have left. Squirrel hunting is my favorite type of quarry. I get to sneak miles through the woods and explore.

Other than a few vegans that actually do a lot of camping and hiking, I’m far more connected to nature, my place in it, and the effects of climate change than most vegans ever will be. My family and I moved 700 miles this summer. Climate change and the future of my children and maybe grandchildren was a big factor that drove the move.

Again, you have strongly held religious beliefs that I think are bullshit. I also really dislike the sneering judgement I see so much of coming from your religion and people. It’s just like fundamentalist Christians in tone, stridency, superiority, and sanctimony. You’re not any better than me. You just believe some crap that I don’t. Again, just like the fundamentalist Christianity I grew up in. You know those televangelists that beg for money? That’s a mirror of the people you believe in. The people protesting outside abortion clinics? That’s your people with a different set of beliefs.

As far as climate change and greenhouse gases go, yup. Major problem. I’m actually reducing my impact, but, unless we tackle the industrial sources, an individual’s impact is a drop in the ocean at the scales that we’re talking about. Also, meat taken by hunting is about as low impact as it gets. Especially venison.

Exactly.

I enjoy hunting but I don’t glory in the killing. There is always a part of me that is sad when I kill. Even killing a rat or butchering a fish gives me a twinge. I don’t feel bad when I kill a mosquito, but do feel bad when I kill a black widow.

If I raise an animal to eat it, it will be properly cared for and have a good life and as painless a passing as I can make it.

When I take a picture of something I killed, I make sure blood or injuries are not visible. That is disrespectful to that life I took.

I recently killed a groundhog because it was being a varmint and digging up the foundation of my garage and chicken coop.

I tried to clean it so we could eat it, but must have hit the glands. The smell of the carcass was almost chemical it was so strong. They’re supposed to be good, but I’d never had to kill one. Harder to skin than a squirrel and they have super tough hide.

I had to toss it and it bothered me. Even though it was being a varmint: to me it is ethical to kill a varmint and not eat it. However, you should make use of that life if you can.

I killed a coon once as a kid and had to eat it after it was smoked. Not good. Never killed an animal again that I wasn’t going to eat except for varmints.

Varmints are animals out of balance. Rats and roaches are almost always varmints. Spiders rarely are. Overpopulated deer are often varmints. A groundhog out in the woods is just a critter, a groundhog digging out my foundation is a varmint. Cats are varmints when they are feral and killing wild birds, especially ground nesting birds.

Critters are animals in balance or domesticated.

Varmints are also almost always a species of least concern.

The environment would be in a much better place if people were more connected to their food.

Yah, I was pretty insulting. Removed for lack of civility. I enjoy venting my rage at holier-than-thou vegans. They hate the religious and fanatic comparison. I’ve dealt with a lot of religious bullshit in my life, so someone judging me by their religious standards tends to put me in a vengeful mood.

It’s been a year or two since I played with OSS CAD/CAM. It was still heavily lacking. QCad is only 2d.

I check it every few years hoping for improvement.

FreeCAD UI was still so bad it was basically unusable and I could not wrap my head around it. Horrible interface and totally unintuitive. I’m still not sure how to take a simple linear measurement. Installed a plugin that sort of worked to measure. That crap was designed by aliens.

The OSS CAMs can generate a tool path, but it is difficult and they aren’t feature rich. CNC programming puts food on my table and I need the speed and features of pro level software. If I was playing with a router and doing a lot of 2d stuff, I could make it work for that. Especially if my time didn’t matter.

If Mastercam would just port to Linux I would happily switch.

I’m a CNC programmer with enough computer programming knowledge to be dangerous but not actually contribute to the various projects out there. Sucks.

I’ll have to throw qalculate on my computer and play with it. I’m actually rebuilding our new little farm right now and am taking a break from machining while I put our home right. If our savings hold out, I’ll be building my own shop.

Running stock Android on my phone and use Jerboa for Lemmy, my computer is Windows 10 as Linux still is lacking in CAD/CAM. In particular, CAM at a professional level. My home server is running Linux, however. Been playing with Linux for a long time.

Wish Mastercam worked in Linux and I’d happily make the jump.

It’s rare, in America, for there to be an actual stall. Food trucks or carts are much more common and serve the same function. Stalls can be found at festivals and fairs.

Some of the best food comes out of food trucks. There’s a whole little culture around food trucks.

I’ve seen stalls in other countries on TV. Anthony Bourdain, for instance. He seems to accept a certain amount of food poisoning and dubious ingredients. Some of it still looks really good.

We also have the Tamale Lady phenomenon here. If you see a Hispanic lady or old man selling tamales out of a cooler, you better get some. They’ll be the best damn tamales you’ve ever had.

We try and only eat out as a treat. Almost all of our my meals are eaten at home as we work from home these days. Also, my wife is an amazing cook and her food is better than most restaurants. We usually have leftovers or a sandwich for lunch.

I’m not familiar with your currency symbol? What country do you live in and are the health standards low enough that eating from a stall is a concern? That’s a different situation.

I’m in the US, so food trucks, stalls and gas stations actually have decent standards. (Often, the cleanliness in these places is heads and shoulders above corporate chain places.)

I learned to always check the bathroom of a restaurant. How clean they keep their bathroom tells you a lot about how they keep their kitchen. Small, family run, places tend to have the best food and the cleanest bathrooms, in my experience.

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Unashamed omnivore, fisher, and hunter here. Working on our play farm so we can source all of our meat ethically in the future. Taking active steps to prevent the suffering of animals we consume. Don’t have an ethical or moral problem with killing animals to eat them. Prefer to do it myself so that I know that I have done my best to minimize the suffering of the critters I kill.

I’ve been told I’m a raper and abuser.

fite me

I didn’t read OP’s statement as racist.

I think anyone with taste knows that a small non-chain restaurant, stall, or cart will have much better food than some corporate chain crap food made with industrially sourced ‘ingredients.’

Personally, I’m always looking for the small restaurants that serve food on Styrofoam or paper plates. Bonus points if it’s attached to a gas station or the owner’s little kids are in the dining room or kitchen playing and coloring.

Ethnicity doesn’t matter, it can be a barbecue joint or some sort of Asian culture I’m ignorant of.

You see a little kid quietly coloring in a booth by themselves, you know that shit is going to be good.

I got lucky, my father died when I was 4. My step father was good in spite of his religion.

That shit fucking sucks. I’m sorry for you. Sucks donkey balls.

Those things make us hard. We’re hard and take care of the ones we love. We make sure they don’t ever have to live like that. You sound tough, we’ll keep on going and loving. All we can do.

My god, I figure we’re probably on the same side of the fence. You seem like you’re some kind of angry and I don’t know why.

There’s so much racist freight in the south it ain’t worth talking about. My banjo teacher’s daddy was the grand wizard. Fucking for real, true statement.

I’m not racist. I’ve made deliberate efforts to include black folks (the primary other in my neck of the woods) in my personal and professional life.

I shook hands with a man today and told him goodbye. Iranian, he got out when shit went bad with the Shah snd the CIA and such. He owned the gas station down from my old house and expanded. We talked about getting old and staying working otherwise we’ll die. We talked about his grandkids and how I want grandkids. I’m going to miss him a whole lot. He’s a good man.

I’m a redneck, not a Yankee, and that’s okay. I love my people even if they are sick.

Wait. I’m a traitor?

Like, I have an entire culture that I’m grieving. Warts and all. Grew up in this. I talk different, look different, eat different from like the rest of the USA. I’m pretty much a walking talking stereotype of a redneck.

What the fuck is up with you that you think that’s a reasonable thing to say? Would Mister Rogers like the person you’re being?

This will be hard to put into words. I figure it’s a result of climate change/global warming.

There was an eartheir note in the smell when I was a kid. Now I smell more clay and piss, I think the piss smell is from the insects changing. I smell less oak and a lot more privet. Less walnut and pecan sharp smells. Lots of a green smell that I only used to know in high spring. Fungus and wood rot way more often. Something like cut grass even in February.

There was a constant whine and buzz. It was a background noise and is mostly gone. There was always knocking in the trees and it happens way less. The ground had a buzz and shuffle that is way less, even though big beetles move through.

There are new whinings, there’s a deeper buzz.

It’s all subjective, it’s different, things have changed.

I’m trying to put words to this, but it’s like trying to talk about the way water feels.

Appreciate the kindness. I kind of wish they all died early so I didn’t have to see the rot.

Y’all watch out, be on guard.

Live well an full.

It hurts a whole lot. I can’t find a cure for their sick and I’ve tried.

Bless her heart, I don’t think she can help it. I don’t think you can fix it.

We can’t fix or help them. They’re sick in a bad way and we have to move on and take care of the ones that will let us.

Yes. it was an incredible shock. 9-11 was less of a shock.

It’s like a transmissible soul sickness that they willfully acquired because it seemed easy and it made them feel right and justified.

I’m moving on and trying to make peace with it. I’m trying to view it as a different kind of pandemic or an asteroid that came out the sky and smacked us.