Who notices that someone is better at mounting tvs? How does one notice this? What is this made up scenario?
Besides watching someone to try to learn, craftsmen can just goon over other’s works.
At a job once updating some central lighting control there were some awesome rooms some (probably long retired) electrician had planned and installed. man that shit was so clean. Another time me n another guy were 'mirin this single ¾ conduit bend for 5 minutes.
This isn’t exactly 100% relevant to your story, but it is related and an anecdote I enjoy sharing.
I recently moved to a small town and hired an electrician to make some changes to my house. After showing him around the house, we went to look at the fuse box to determine what changes could be made.
As we were looking, he said “I know those fuses are original.” When I asked how, he pointed at the labels and said “because that’s my father’s handwriting.”
Kinda cool to have a legacy like that. The electrician did do good work, so far as I can tell, so it was likely earned as well.
“because they’re fuses instead of breakers”
Now when you say goon…
That didn’t involve you learning how someone can hang tvs better than you on Facebook. Having hung a TV or two in my day, I don’t know how one can learn to respect another’s ability there based on social media
Quick edit: I’m also super annoyed at op to tie it to ‘positive masculinity’ while describing the quintessential male trait - they like teaching or displaying their abilities. Go grill or work on cars with a group of men and see what happens. It’s a fucking trope. This nonsense wholesome schtick is gross.
I don’t know how one can learn to respect another’s ability there based on social media
Well i haven’t used Facebook in a long time but i have seen (both through reading accounts on social media and a few guys personally that use Facebook successfully for their side-work. Facebook gets like 2B eyeballs daily (if not our 4)
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edit: I’m also super annoyed at op to tie it to ‘positive masculinity’ while describing the quintessential male trait - they like teaching or displaying their abilities
But toxic masculinity is definitely not asking others for help. as a tradesperson i can speak to the fear of outting myself to ridicule if i all for help. Not just me either, I’ve seen whole days of work wasted cuz guys are afraid to ask. I don’t of it’s all jobs but Construction definitely be that way.
Op reached out even so and got help instead of ridicule and are now partners instead of competitors. Like what’s not to like here?
What made the old electrician’s work especially clean or notable? Just curious what caught your eye as I’m someone not in that industry
Hmm, i used to have pics. Hard to describe with words. Beyond the beautifully square pipe runs and can punches he had a kinda signature with his sweeps and the rooms he musta done looked like he had made a master plan rather than just making it work. Oh and very little evidence of covered up mistakes (short pieces of conduit) that youd maybe only notice if you were doing demo anyway.
We would wonder who this dude was cuz there were like…a lot of rooms he had a hand in in this building. His clean work trademark was one thing, but we never knew for sure it was one of his until we’d pull the old cabinets to find his other trademark, peurile cartoons about how he really felt about his boss.
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I definitely have friends who I know are a lot better at this kind of stuff than I am (mostly because they get less anxious over what happens if they screw up but…). I have never seen a difference once the tv is mounted because… you can’t see the fricking mount once the TV is mounted.
I dunno. I also kind of have problems with the underlying premise too. Yes, toxic masculinity is a massive problem and people very much do not realize how few “male role models” there are for kids who aren’t bald human traffickers and the people who sniff their chairs. But “Hey dude, I see you are a super masculine strong man with a bubble level” is not the answer.
The answer is to teach kids they don’t NEED role models that fit the same gender roles they do (or, more often, their parents think they should). An athlete is an athlete and a smart person is a smart person. Same with being “handy”. This is a lesson girls/“girls” were forced to learn long ago and is one boys/“boys” would benefit from. Because then you don’t need to say “Well, I like what this person is saying but they have the wrong genitalia and aren’t muscular enough”.
What you see isn’t the issue with proper mounting, its what you don’t.
Leveling, positioning for cable pathways/junction box positioning/planning, heights for good viewing, proper blocking for support, so on. And someone who foes this for a living is going to notice.
And slrpnk.net, the Lemmy instance, is about working towards a sustainable future (solarpunk concept), so that’s the only thing that instance is selling is a climate friendly future. Well worth checking out some of the great communities on there.
If you need help leveling a tv mount (especially considering they all come with really nice paper templates) then you have no business doing anything professionally. Even one of the shitty pocket bubble levels is more than good enough for visual inspection*. Let alone having a proper one for “real” level.
Cabling is generally a home owner’s problem unless you popped two holes in the wall to run some conduit. Which, again, is not visible in a facebook post unless someone just never thought of doing that… which gets back to “you have no business doing anything professionally”.
There is no situation where even Super Elite Mega Masculine And Muscular Contractors are going to be impressed by someone’s tv mounting game to the point of wanting to learn. Especially on Facebook of all things.
This is engagement farming. Nonsensical engagement farming at that. It is on the same level of an AI generated jesus and a caption about how it is strange that those posts never go viral.
I don’t think you understand the leveling process in the context of display mounts if you think a paper template has any relevance.
You use the level to ensure that the drill points are “close to level”. You then drill and begin mounting the… mount. At which point you are already at the point of glancing at a bubble level while adjusting a few nuts to get to actually level.
But hey? I guess I don’t have enough strong male role models to use a bubble level. I should check facebook.
Right, so you don’t understand what’s being discussed then. Thanks for the confirmation I guess.
There is nothing wrong with paying someone to do this for you and you should not feel ashamed of that. It is not a hard challenge but a big part of “growing up” is knowing when to value your time more than money. What will take you half a day will take someone on a fiver-equivalent twenty minutes.
But tv mounting? As long as you have a stud finder (or know what a stud is), it is more or less idiot proof and is very much NOT something that “craftsmen” are going to really notice. And those that do… at least one person in that conversation should not be doing this for a living.
Which is why this facebook post was 100% engagement farming. Because if you show the wiring behind a circuit panel or some joinery in furniture or something similar? THAT is something that you can really see skill in… if you know to look for it. To everyone else it is nonsense. But then you don’t get the feel good of “I should like and share this because it is so heartwarming and I can relate”.
And the reason why these accounts post this bullshit is to get those accounts popular enough in the facebook algorithm that they then CAN post some ads and get exposure.
It’s a sign of the times that this is upvoted so much. When I was growing up, this was called normal behavior and was boring and nobody talked about it.
If nobody talked about it, how do you know it was normal behavior?
Because we all did it, our entire family, all of our friends and every coworker.
But these were strangers.
My step-brother and I weren’t family until a decade ago. He goes into incel mode and projects his insecurity by hating on everybody.
But today, he shared this with me about something he wants to get better at as he was getting tired of being angry all the time.
So hopefully this message gets across to more people.
Y’all were always family even though you never met.
Do you know how step siblings work?
Yes, you fuck them when they get stuck under a bed
😂
Though you’re right Instead of doggin im gonna follow OPs lead an upvote the positive intentions this comment were written with
All these people in the comments complaining that the bar isn’t level when the picture is just taken from a slight side angle? 🤦♂️🤦♂️ literal perspective problem 😂
Also people being like “lol no such thing as a TV-bar-hanger-contractor”… Audio/video contractors of course do this??? Like, who said its the only thing their job entails?? 😂
put a bubble level on it and prove it to me >:(
At least it’s the right height off of the ground… Too many people put that shit way too high.
It definitely is crooked lol The angle of the picture doesn’t matter you can still see that it’s crooked 😭 lmao
But yeah people be hating for no reason
Bet it’s level just the house is crooked
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The post literally says he is learning, so I can imagine a crooked mount.
Conspiracy brainstorming about whether a dudes tv mount is level is kinda toxic behavior.
not a bad comment, but jesus the amount of emojis and “???” really makes me feel like I’m mentally retarded and you have to talk to me like I’m a small child
You have 4 emojis in your name. I’m hoping this was supposed to be ironic.
How is it I came into the wholesome thread, and every comment seems to be people looking down on or critiquing people.
This is not a good sign
I’m here for le wholesome 🤷♂️ and people dare to be not le wholesome 😮💨🫨
Nice message, but the thought of the existence of a competitive scene of contractors specializing in mounting TVs is hilarious. Also, that mounting plate is crooked af.
That bar is not straight i hate it.
You don’t like gay bars?
Racist post
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