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    21 days ago

    Besides watching someone to try to learn, craftsmen can just goon over other’s works.

    At a job once updating some central lighting control there were some awesome rooms some (probably long retired) electrician had planned and installed. man that shit was so clean. Another time me n another guy were 'mirin this single ¾ conduit bend for 5 minutes.

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      This isn’t exactly 100% relevant to your story, but it is related and an anecdote I enjoy sharing.

      I recently moved to a small town and hired an electrician to make some changes to my house. After showing him around the house, we went to look at the fuse box to determine what changes could be made.

      As we were looking, he said “I know those fuses are original.” When I asked how, he pointed at the labels and said “because that’s my father’s handwriting.”

      Kinda cool to have a legacy like that. The electrician did do good work, so far as I can tell, so it was likely earned as well.

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      21 days ago

      That didn’t involve you learning how someone can hang tvs better than you on Facebook. Having hung a TV or two in my day, I don’t know how one can learn to respect another’s ability there based on social media

      Quick edit: I’m also super annoyed at op to tie it to ‘positive masculinity’ while describing the quintessential male trait - they like teaching or displaying their abilities. Go grill or work on cars with a group of men and see what happens. It’s a fucking trope. This nonsense wholesome schtick is gross.

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        I don’t know how one can learn to respect another’s ability there based on social media

        Well i haven’t used Facebook in a long time but i have seen (both through reading accounts on social media and a few guys personally that use Facebook successfully for their side-work. Facebook gets like 2B eyeballs daily (if not our 4)

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        edit: I’m also super annoyed at op to tie it to ‘positive masculinity’ while describing the quintessential male trait - they like teaching or displaying their abilities

        But toxic masculinity is definitely not asking others for help. as a tradesperson i can speak to the fear of outting myself to ridicule if i all for help. Not just me either, I’ve seen whole days of work wasted cuz guys are afraid to ask. I don’t of it’s all jobs but Construction definitely be that way.

        Op reached out even so and got help instead of ridicule and are now partners instead of competitors. Like what’s not to like here?

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      21 days ago

      What made the old electrician’s work especially clean or notable? Just curious what caught your eye as I’m someone not in that industry

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        Hmm, i used to have pics. Hard to describe with words. Beyond the beautifully square pipe runs and can punches he had a kinda signature with his sweeps and the rooms he musta done looked like he had made a master plan rather than just making it work. Oh and very little evidence of covered up mistakes (short pieces of conduit) that youd maybe only notice if you were doing demo anyway.

        We would wonder who this dude was cuz there were like…a lot of rooms he had a hand in in this building. His clean work trademark was one thing, but we never knew for sure it was one of his until we’d pull the old cabinets to find his other trademark, peurile cartoons about how he really felt about his boss.