• TexMexBazooka@lemm.ee
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    27 days ago

    I mean it’s actually an interesting point though?

    Men should be loved and cared for in a relationship too, not treated like shit by default.

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        27 days ago

        Men are statistically treated worse than women (by both men and women), there’s papers on this

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        27 days ago

        I’m not by my partner. Never have been, that’s why I love her, she’s always been kind.

        But she also carries some distrust and resentment towards mean-justifiably given trauma-that is sometimes directed at me, inadvertently I think. Which sucks and doesn’t make me feel great, but it also makes sense from her perspective and she’s not got an issue with me

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      That’s what I thought the comments would be about but apparently he should just get called creepy instead.

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      Isn’t that the status quo? I guess it’s not really fathers to daughters, but most women I know went through some amount of “here’s how to be a good wife” lessons from their mothers or family. I think women get a lot of “traditional gender roles” training that’s mostly about being caretakers.

      Usually people putting forth this kinda “women should learn how to care for their man” attitude are coming from a conservative “traditional family values” position.

      Really, we should be teaching people how to ask about and learn the needs of their partner, and how to determine your own needs and communicate those to your partner. Basic emotional intelligence stuff. It doesn’t have to be gendered at all.

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      27 days ago

      Well, I’m certainly not gonna teach my daughter to trust boys. That will lead to places I don’t even want to think about.

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        27 days ago

        Your daughter’s going to ignore your calls when she’s in college lol

        Edit: … if she’s asleep! Stay safe yall and hug your family members

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            Maybe my comment was a bit rude but please don’t teach your daughter to instantly distrust people based on their gender. That’s a recipe for undersocilization that’s going to fuck her up for a long time

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              Maybe you’re not a nazi after all, lol. But I try to stay away from gender issues as much as possible, that’s not what this was about. It seems no matter what I say, it’s always offending someone’s gender. I’m sad to see it’s not possible to escape it though.

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        And the cycle continues. Congrats on being a cog in a machine we’re trying to dismantle.

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          This feels reductive. Are you seriously saying ‘trust boys’ is a message you should give girls right now? I have boys and girls, and I would never tell my daughter ‘yeah just default to trusting guys’ – hell she had issues with boys not understanding consent or bodily autonomy in elementary school.

          And I 100% blame those of us around those boys, we’re the adults, but the fact is girls literally cannot afford to just trust men or boys on meeting.

          We need to teach our boys and men to stop doing these things and then we can tell everyone to trust by default.

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        My guy, the motivation is right but the thinking is wrong.

        You teach your daughter how to spot manipulative behavior, teach her how to stand up for and protect herself, teach your daughter how to respect herself AND others, teach her how to love herself AND others, teach her what a healthy relationship looks like…

        Boys will be boys, they will be dumb and horny teenagers and they will try shit, even with the absolute best of dumb horny boy intentions, also teenage lesbians are quite keen on trying shit too. You need to teach them to spot the difference between their first love and someone telling them what they want to hear in order to go up their shirt.

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        I’m not gonna teach my daughters who they are or are not supposed to trust. Because I will never teach my children what they should think, but rather how to think for themselves. I will encourage them to only trust individuals that prove themselves trustworthy, but again, that’s not my decision to make.

        They’re not extensions of me; they are distinct, individual human beings. So I certainly hope you will not teach her to be distrustful; that leads to misery and pain, all in the pursuit of something that doesn’t belong to you and never will (her mind is her own, whether you like it or not).